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| Hi, I hope someone can help me; I'm a simple soul who has just bought Neutron 2 and am trying to use the dynamic EQ masking features which require a sidechain but I could not get it going. So I went back to basics and tried to do a sidechain with the Presonus stock compressor and cannot get that working either... All I'm doing to test it is:- Track One = Kick drum, played on a loop Track Two = Bassline. Put the Presonus compressor on this track as an insert and select the yellow 'sidechain' button. Then go to the 'send' on Track One (the kick) and tell it to send to the compressor. Crank the send level. According to every single Youtube video I watch, that's all there is to it and yet it does not work for me. I have no clue what I'm doing wrong. I'm now presuming that the issue with Neutron 2 is not actually a Neutron 2 issue as indeed I cannot do the simple stuff with the Presonus stock. If anyone can point me in the right direction here that would be great. I'm 99% sure I've had this working a year or so back but it's just not interested right now. Thank you Gary |
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| Gary, If you have properly setup your receiving plug to sidechain and you have created a Send to it from your other plug, try changing the Threshold in the compressor until you can see it being activated. Sometimes if the threshold is too low, you won't see anything! Bbd Please add your specs to your SIGNATURE. Search the STUDIO ONE 4 ONLINE MANUAL. Access your MY.PRESONUS account. OVERVIEW of how to get your issue fixed or the steps to create a SUPPORT TICKET. Needs to include: 1) One Sentence Description 2) Expected Results 3) Actual Results 4) Steps to Reproduce. OS: Win 10 x64 Home, Studio One Pro 4.x, Notion 6, Series III 24, Studio 192, Haswell CPU: i7 4790k @ 4.4GHz, RAM: 16GB, Faderport 8/16, Central Station +, PreSonus Sceptre S6, Eris 3.5, Temblor 10, ATOM |
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| I'm having a sidechaining issue as well and it's driving me nuts. I followed all of the simple instructions and no compressors are receiving the sidechain signal at all. I've done some searching online and I've come to the point where I believe it's a bug. Is anyone else experiencing this where the sidechain signal is not triggering the plugin you're sending it to? Mid 2012 Macbook Pro - OSX 10.11.6 - 2.6 Ghz Intel Core i7 Studio One v3.5.6 Pro Tools 2018.4 UA Apollo Quad Softube Console 1 Various Outboard Gear |
| Hi.. You don't necessarily need to use sidechaining with Neutron 2 to utilise the dynamic EQ. For instance, if I want the kick to mask certain bass frequencies I put an instance of Neutron EQ (no need for the full plugin) on the kick and label it 'kick' (no prizes for stating the obvious) then put an instance of Neutron on the bass. Using the bass instance in the EQ pane I click on masking and invoke the 'kick' Neutron insert, adjust the sensitivity to see where the interaction occurs between competing frequencies and then place an EQ node to span the interacting frequencies with a bell cut. Still with the same node active go in to the dynamic section (bottom right - doesn't show by default) and engage dynamic mode making the required adjustments for threshold etc.. As a result the bass EQ will cut dynamically at the required frequencies impeding less on the kick. Not exactly what you're looking for but in the absence of side-chaining it helps. Regards.. Windows 10 Pro/i7 6800k @3.4Ghz/16Gb ram. Studio One Pro, Melodyne Editor 4, Vocalign Project, Superior Drummer 3, Izotope N2-O8 and various other plugins. Focusrite Saffire Pro 40, Faderport, Focal Alpha 50's, Korg Pa3x, Korg Pad Kontrol, numerous guitars, basses & other antiquated outboard gear. Maybe one day I'll actually finish a project! |
| Apologies, I should clarify. I'm not having issues with Neutron like the OP. But it seemed like the OP also had problems with his sidechaining outside of Neutron. Ironically, my Neutron 2 is working fine, but my sidechaining in S1 isn't working at all which is very odd. Thanks for the reply. Mid 2012 Macbook Pro - OSX 10.11.6 - 2.6 Ghz Intel Core i7 Studio One v3.5.6 Pro Tools 2018.4 UA Apollo Quad Softube Console 1 Various Outboard Gear |
| When you insert the compressor plugin (on the bass track) you need to do these things: 1 Click on the Sidechain button right up the top to the right of the presets window. It should turn Blue 2 Look down below in the compressor in the Sidechain area. It too should also say External Sidechain in Blue 3 On the compressor there is level control for side chain to the left of the gain control. It may default to 0 dB. As well as sending the signal from the source track (i.e. kick in this case) you may need to turn this rotary side chain control up more so to see the kick signal in fact acting on the bass track. You will see it in the form of gain reduction taking place on the bass track in time with the kick drum. For effective ducking too you don't need huge amounts of gain reduction either for this to be effective. A ratio of 2:1 might be good. Fast attack as well so it acts quickly on the bass sounds. Fast release too so it lets go pretty quick as well letting the rest of the bass sound to come through. Set the threshold so the GR on the bass track is only 2 to 3 dB. It all works here so there is nothing wrong with the setup. I am happy to make a short video on it as well if you are still having problems. Please add your specs to your SIGNATURE. Search the STUDIO ONE 4 ONLINE MANUAL. Access your MY.PRESONUS account. OVERVIEW of how to get your issue fixed or the steps to create a SUPPORT TICKET. Needs to include: 1) One Sentence Description 2) Expected Results 3) Actual Results 4) Steps to Reproduce. Specs i5-2500K 3.5 Ghz-8 Gb RAM-Win 7 64 bit - ATI Radeon HD6900 Series - RME HDSP9632 - Midex 8 Midi interface - Faderport 8 and 2018- Atom Pad- iMac 2.5Ghz Core i5 - High Sierra 10.13.6 - Focusrite Clarett 2 Pre & Scarlett 18i20. Studio One V4.6.1 (Mac), Notion 6.5, Ableton Live 10 Suite, LaunchPad Pro |
| If none of the previously mentioned solutions work, please try increasing your Buffer Size / Device Block Size to a higher value. |
| alanbaumann1 wroteIf none of the previously mentioned solutions work, please try increasing your Buffer Size / Device Block Size to a higher value. Thanks, you save my day! It works! |
| Original post and initial responses do not show up when I visit this thread. Only the very last 2 posts show up. When I visit to OP's profile, I can see part of the original question, but not the whole thing. Accessing this thread from there also has the same result..only the last 2 posts show. Has anyone else had this type of problem? This stuff happens fairly often for me. Atari 5200, 64K RAM S1PRO Radio Shack Cassette Recorder w/internal Mic, |
| Whole thread seems to be ok for me Studio One 4.5.0 Professional MacBook Pro (2018) 2.9GHz 7th Gen i7 Processor 512GB SSD, 16GB RAM, Radeon Pro 560 4GB with Presonus Studio 24C Mac 27' i5 with Presonus FireStudio Mobile Akai LPK25, NI Komplete Kontrol S49 Mk2, Komplete 11, Nektar Impact GX49, NI Maschine Jam, NI Maschine Mikro, Faderport 1, Artiphon Instrument 1 http://soundcloud.com/busterbuk http://busterbuk.bandcamp.com https://www.facebook.com/BusterBuk/ |
| Thanks- I guess I'll have to check with Presonus about this. Atari 5200, 64K RAM S1PRO Radio Shack Cassette Recorder w/internal Mic, |
| Hello guys! I'm running Studio Ver.4 and I'm experiencing the same problems with side chaining. It only works on Buffer size 512 and above. It's not working with anything less than 512. Is there's any solution with this? Thanks. |
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| I had a different problem. My side-chain would not work with neutron 3 no matter how i configured it or changed my settings. The only way i got it to work was to not use the vst version but a version with a ## on the plugin. Then instead of sending the sound from say a kick to the bass to duck it i had to send it backwards (from bass to kick using the plugin wrapper side-chain option. This is super weird and i have no idea why it works this way. I also couldn't get it to work if i manually set the side-chain from the channel strip either it had to be from the plugin wrapper. |
| I was running into the same issue and none of the above solutions worked for me. It turns out that I had to turn the Monitor Button off for the bass track that hosted the compressor. I found the answer here: https://answers.presonus.com/19411/sidechain-is-bug Hope it helps! |
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| Hi, I hope someone can help me; I'm a simple soul who has just bought Neutron 2 and am trying to use the dynamic EQ masking features which require a sidechain but I could not get it going. So I went back to basics and tried to do a sidechain with the Presonus stock compressor and cannot get that working either... All I'm doing to test it is:- Track One = Kick drum, played on a loop Track Two = Bassline. Put the Presonus compressor on this track as an insert and select the yellow 'sidechain' button. Then go to the 'send' on Track One (the kick) and tell it to send to the compressor. Crank the send level. According to every single Youtube video I watch, that's all there is to it and yet it does not work for me. I have no clue what I'm doing wrong. I'm now presuming that the issue with Neutron 2 is not actually a Neutron 2 issue as indeed I cannot do the simple stuff with the Presonus stock. If anyone can point me in the right direction here that would be great. I'm 99% sure I've had this working a year or so back but it's just not interested right now. Thank you Gary |
| Gary, If you have properly setup your receiving plug to sidechain and you have created a Send to it from your other plug, try changing the Threshold in the compressor until you can see it being activated. Sometimes if the threshold is too low, you won't see anything! Bbd Please add your specs to your SIGNATURE. Search the STUDIO ONE 4 ONLINE MANUAL. Access your MY.PRESONUS account. OVERVIEW of how to get your issue fixed or the steps to create a SUPPORT TICKET. Needs to include: 1) One Sentence Description 2) Expected Results 3) Actual Results 4) Steps to Reproduce. OS: Win 10 x64 Home, Studio One Pro 4.x, Notion 6, Series III 24, Studio 192, Haswell CPU: i7 4790k @ 4.4GHz, RAM: 16GB, Faderport 8/16, Central Station +, PreSonus Sceptre S6, Eris 3.5, Temblor 10, ATOM |
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Studio One 4.5 Sidechain Software
| I'm having a sidechaining issue as well and it's driving me nuts. I followed all of the simple instructions and no compressors are receiving the sidechain signal at all. I've done some searching online and I've come to the point where I believe it's a bug. Is anyone else experiencing this where the sidechain signal is not triggering the plugin you're sending it to? Mid 2012 Macbook Pro - OSX 10.11.6 - 2.6 Ghz Intel Core i7 Studio One v3.5.6 Pro Tools 2018.4 UA Apollo Quad Softube Console 1 Various Outboard Gear |
Sidechaining In Studio One 4.5
| Hi.. You don't necessarily need to use sidechaining with Neutron 2 to utilise the dynamic EQ. For instance, if I want the kick to mask certain bass frequencies I put an instance of Neutron EQ (no need for the full plugin) on the kick and label it 'kick' (no prizes for stating the obvious) then put an instance of Neutron on the bass. Using the bass instance in the EQ pane I click on masking and invoke the 'kick' Neutron insert, adjust the sensitivity to see where the interaction occurs between competing frequencies and then place an EQ node to span the interacting frequencies with a bell cut. Still with the same node active go in to the dynamic section (bottom right - doesn't show by default) and engage dynamic mode making the required adjustments for threshold etc.. As a result the bass EQ will cut dynamically at the required frequencies impeding less on the kick. Not exactly what you're looking for but in the absence of side-chaining it helps. Regards.. Windows 10 Pro/i7 6800k @3.4Ghz/16Gb ram. Studio One Pro, Melodyne Editor 4, Vocalign Project, Superior Drummer 3, Izotope N2-O8 and various other plugins. Focusrite Saffire Pro 40, Faderport, Focal Alpha 50's, Korg Pa3x, Korg Pad Kontrol, numerous guitars, basses & other antiquated outboard gear. Maybe one day I'll actually finish a project! |
| Apologies, I should clarify. I'm not having issues with Neutron like the OP. But it seemed like the OP also had problems with his sidechaining outside of Neutron. Ironically, my Neutron 2 is working fine, but my sidechaining in S1 isn't working at all which is very odd. Thanks for the reply. Mid 2012 Macbook Pro - OSX 10.11.6 - 2.6 Ghz Intel Core i7 Studio One v3.5.6 Pro Tools 2018.4 UA Apollo Quad Softube Console 1 Various Outboard Gear |
| When you insert the compressor plugin (on the bass track) you need to do these things: 1 Click on the Sidechain button right up the top to the right of the presets window. It should turn Blue 2 Look down below in the compressor in the Sidechain area. It too should also say External Sidechain in Blue 3 On the compressor there is level control for side chain to the left of the gain control. It may default to 0 dB. As well as sending the signal from the source track (i.e. kick in this case) you may need to turn this rotary side chain control up more so to see the kick signal in fact acting on the bass track. You will see it in the form of gain reduction taking place on the bass track in time with the kick drum. For effective ducking too you don't need huge amounts of gain reduction either for this to be effective. A ratio of 2:1 might be good. Fast attack as well so it acts quickly on the bass sounds. Fast release too so it lets go pretty quick as well letting the rest of the bass sound to come through. Set the threshold so the GR on the bass track is only 2 to 3 dB. It all works here so there is nothing wrong with the setup. I am happy to make a short video on it as well if you are still having problems. Please add your specs to your SIGNATURE. Search the STUDIO ONE 4 ONLINE MANUAL. Access your MY.PRESONUS account. OVERVIEW of how to get your issue fixed or the steps to create a SUPPORT TICKET. Needs to include: 1) One Sentence Description 2) Expected Results 3) Actual Results 4) Steps to Reproduce. Specs i5-2500K 3.5 Ghz-8 Gb RAM-Win 7 64 bit - ATI Radeon HD6900 Series - RME HDSP9632 - Midex 8 Midi interface - Faderport 8 and 2018- Atom Pad- iMac 2.5Ghz Core i5 - High Sierra 10.13.6 - Focusrite Clarett 2 Pre & Scarlett 18i20. Studio One V4.6.1 (Mac), Notion 6.5, Ableton Live 10 Suite, LaunchPad Pro |
Studio One 4.5 Sidechain Player
| If none of the previously mentioned solutions work, please try increasing your Buffer Size / Device Block Size to a higher value. |
| alanbaumann1 wroteIf none of the previously mentioned solutions work, please try increasing your Buffer Size / Device Block Size to a higher value. Thanks, you save my day! It works! |
| Original post and initial responses do not show up when I visit this thread. Only the very last 2 posts show up. When I visit to OP's profile, I can see part of the original question, but not the whole thing. Accessing this thread from there also has the same result..only the last 2 posts show. Has anyone else had this type of problem? This stuff happens fairly often for me. Atari 5200, 64K RAM S1PRO Radio Shack Cassette Recorder w/internal Mic, |
| Whole thread seems to be ok for me Studio One 4.5.0 Professional MacBook Pro (2018) 2.9GHz 7th Gen i7 Processor 512GB SSD, 16GB RAM, Radeon Pro 560 4GB with Presonus Studio 24C Mac 27' i5 with Presonus FireStudio Mobile Akai LPK25, NI Komplete Kontrol S49 Mk2, Komplete 11, Nektar Impact GX49, NI Maschine Jam, NI Maschine Mikro, Faderport 1, Artiphon Instrument 1 http://soundcloud.com/busterbuk http://busterbuk.bandcamp.com https://www.facebook.com/BusterBuk/ |
| Thanks- I guess I'll have to check with Presonus about this. Atari 5200, 64K RAM S1PRO Radio Shack Cassette Recorder w/internal Mic, |
| Hello guys! I'm running Studio Ver.4 and I'm experiencing the same problems with side chaining. It only works on Buffer size 512 and above. It's not working with anything less than 512. Is there's any solution with this? Thanks. |
| I had a different problem. My side-chain would not work with neutron 3 no matter how i configured it or changed my settings. The only way i got it to work was to not use the vst version but a version with a ## on the plugin. Then instead of sending the sound from say a kick to the bass to duck it i had to send it backwards (from bass to kick using the plugin wrapper side-chain option. This is super weird and i have no idea why it works this way. I also couldn't get it to work if i manually set the side-chain from the channel strip either it had to be from the plugin wrapper. |
| I was running into the same issue and none of the above solutions worked for me. It turns out that I had to turn the Monitor Button off for the bass track that hosted the compressor. I found the answer here: https://answers.presonus.com/19411/sidechain-is-bug Hope it helps! |
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